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Originally Posted by Richy Rich

I have a 760whp M3, I don't see how BMW hasn't built a sports car. It can go toe to toe with a 720s, even if it's tuned, then swap tunes and dominate on a track — it seats 4 adult sized humans and has 4 doors. Don't know why you're bitching about a car that is in a far different class than their actual sports car...

Originally Posted by Germanauto

The ///M4 isn't even that much a sports car to be honest. There's an eerily distinct difference between it and the E9X M3. The latter felt lively and communicated to the driver. The M4 feels like a numb luxo-barge.

Well, I fall somewhere in between you two.

My M4 is stock/non-CP and it's an incredible car for me. It cost half what my Porsche cost, and provides 8/10ths of the performance. Measured bang-for-the-buck, my M4 is superior to my 911 GTS. The two cars are equally fast, but as I've said before, performance does not equal only 0-60. And the 911's steering and handling characteristics are hands down superior to the M4's.

BMW has talked about building a 911-fighter and they certainly have the engineering talent to do it, but we're all in agreement that the 8 is not that car and isn't intended to be. I wish it or another BMW was. If that's bitching, then so be it.