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      03-17-2024, 07:09 AM   #23
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Thanks. It took some work to find, but this is a great deal on a near perfect car, with a year of warranty left. My favorite exterior color, with an excellent interior color. Plus brand new tires and a fresh brake job!
And, this color combination is..............?
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And, this color combination is..............?
Mineral White Exterior Tartufo/black interior.

In a perfect world it would have been a Cognac interior, but that's extremely difficult to find. I definitely do like the look of Tartufo/black though

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Any suggestions on what you feel are optimal settings for suspension etc. would be appreciated. Obviously, I'll experiment, but I have a very long trip home starting right after I take possession of the car.

I did notice in one test drive that with the suspension in "sport" or "sport something" on ales than ideal road surface, the car really became uncomfortable to drive. I switched at least one element to "comfort", but realize there are many options which play together in varying ways.
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Still hoping for some input on this apparent issue:

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I had the 2019 model from January 2019 to May 2023.

I put 50,000 miles on the car in that time frame. Basically 12,000 miles a year.

"The only “issue” I ever had was coolant top offs which got annoying but is vital to take care of. No serious engine issues ever and I absolutely beat on that car.

Oil changes around every 6k-8k miles (BMW “recommends” 10k miles). Only thing I ever did was pads & fluid. Spark plugs before I sold the car with 50k miles"

Can you describe the coolant top offs more thoroughly? In terms of roughly how often to check, what to expect, etc. It would be much appreciated.

I'm assuming this is simply common to this model of car and everyone has had to do it?
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Can you describe the coolant top offs more thoroughly? In terms of roughly how often to check, what to expect, etc. It would be much appreciated.

I'm assuming this is simply common to this model of car and everyone has had to do it?
Doesn't seem to be a "common" issue with me. At 36,000 miles, I've topped off once.......and it was a very small amount. This car has been bulletproof. So far.
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"The only “issue” I ever had was coolant top offs which got annoying but is vital to take care of. No serious engine issues ever and I absolutely beat on that car.
Can you describe the coolant top offs more thoroughly? In terms of roughly how often to check, what to expect, etc. It would be much appreciated.
Nothing honestly to worry about. The car will throw a warning when it's necessary but for piece of mind the turbo tank is easy to eyeball the level vs the main tank.

For what it's worth some 2019s and my 2020 were delivered via the VPC in Long Beach without proper coolant levels. There are old threads on that. After about 6 months of driving I too got the message. Called my SA and he said check the turbo tank (which was fine) so safe to drive and bring it in and we'll top it off. That was now over 3 years ago and haven't had an issue since. Granted they may have topped off during the annual maintenance appointments but checking the invoices on them no mention whatsoever.
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Thanks for the clarification!

I flew out and picked up my car on Tuesday, late afternoon. It had passed it's PPI with flying colors, and the final comment from the tech was, "probably the car in the finest condition of anything I've seen in at least the past five years. It could be put into a showroom and solad as new. Just superb condition, and car, all around!".

It truly is literally that good, and I drove it for twelve hours over two days, to get home. The car is just amazing. And I have had a number of highly revered cars before this one.

I can see why Car and Driver said "a bargain at $120k vs the Bentley Continental GT at $150k more. We tested the M850i on the same day we did the Bentley Continental GT, and it was freakish how closely the two big GTs mirrored each other's performance. The BMW's 656-pound weight advantage offset its deficit of 103 horsepower. Both cars hit 60 mph in the same 3.3 seconds, ran the quarter-mile in 11.5 seconds at 123 mph, and pulled 0.98 g on the skidpad. The big differences between the two aren't comfort or performance but presence and price. A BMW simply can't bowl over valets the way a Bentley does."

I'll happily take the $150k savings, much less the added on depreciation that allowed to me to essentially steal a car of this level, and quality.

Thanks to everyone for their comments that helped me to make the ultimate decision to buy this amazing car. I look forward to many years of enjoying it every day.
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Remember........pics. Or it didn't happen.

Congrats, tho. You'll love it.
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Remember........pics. Or it didn't happen.

Congrats, tho. You'll love it.
Thanks. Car is safely ensconced in the garage along with my other vehicle today due to a snowstorm outside. Pics to follow as soon as the weather clears up and I can get it outside.
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Remember........pics. Or it didn't happen.

Congrats, tho. You'll love it.
Yep rules of the forum but that said congrats as well.
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Thanks. Car is safely ensconced in the garage along with my other vehicle today due to a snowstorm outside. Pics to follow as soon as the weather clears up and I can get it outside.
That there my friend gets you the pass on the no pics it didn't happen rule. 👍
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That there my friend gets you the pass on the no pics it didn't happen rule. 👍
Nope. Not good enough🤣

Three days old.......
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I can see why Car and Driver said "a bargain at $120k vs the Bentley Continental GT at $150k more. We tested the M850i on the same day we did the Bentley Continental GT, and it was freakish how closely the two big GTs mirrored each other's performance. The BMW's 656-pound weight advantage offset its deficit of 103 horsepower. Both cars hit 60 mph in the same 3.3 seconds, ran the quarter-mile in 11.5 seconds at 123 mph, and pulled 0.98 g on the skidpad. The big differences between the two aren't comfort or performance but presence and price. A BMW simply can't bowl over valets the way a Bentley does."
The C&D review is good but the Hot Laps is where the $ meets the road and the Bentley being the clear loser. The hosts bet on the Bentley but put both in the hands of a real driver (Randy Pobst) and the outcome was completely different. Not like I ever planned on tracking my 2020 M850i but it obviously can deliver the goods regardless of my absolutely lack of skills to do so. Just would need to pay the track "tax" on brakes and rubber. 😜

https://youtu.be/Wm-9aO8BhUE?si=zqxFv4wq61_qRcc3

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I'll happily take the $150k savings, much less the added on depreciation that allowed to me to essentially steal a car of this level, and quality.
See above as from a driving performance perspective there is a clear winner. My M850i garnishes plenty of "looks" but not why I bought the car.
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Nope. Not good enough🤣

Three days old.......
I was being generous.
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Those of you finding well equipped used, M850i are lucky sonz a biatches.

What a great position to find oneself coming into the BMW V8 market and looking at the used coupes/convertibles.

That car rocks. I had a 2019 for two years.

In Canada I paid $197k for my 2022 fully equipped M8. No regrets but not like you had a substandard car paying $135k for an M850. Getting them at todays price point, compared to M8 at todays price point, can’t lose with an M850.
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I was being generous.
Blooze, where’s a pic of your beast?
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Thanks. It took some work to find, but this is a great deal on a near perfect car, with a year of warranty left. My favorite exterior color, with an excellent interior color. Plus brand new tires and a fresh brake job!
Congratulations! Sounds like italian926 knew you’d find something even better too. Can you posts some pics?!
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      03-23-2024, 01:18 PM   #40
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Blooze, where’s a pic of your beast?
Smattered all over the forum in the random 8, rear end, park like Vic etc. threads but here's the one that started it all including since a December delivery the typical red bow on the hood.

https://f92.bimmerpost.com/forums/sh....php?t=1676619

BMW FUBAR'd the 2nd order with Cerium vs the chrome line I ordered (figured it make the Tanzenite pop more). Dealer made it all right on their dime with OEM Shadowline parts plus CF mirror caps. In retrospect it was the best thing ever as I prefer the stealthiness of the Shadowline over the chrome and if do a 2025 well it's Shadowline all the way.

https://f92.bimmerpost.com/forums/sh....php?t=1682472

Attached are a couple of favorites. The painted desert shot is in the rearview thread. The other is from one of my local desert performance drives that I don't believe I ever posted. However, use it from time to time for my Teams background when in only internal company meetings vs when a vendor is involved.

Ironically planned on adding 2 pics from yesterday to the random 8 so doing so now. 👍
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It's too bad that this happened to you, because BMW dealerships are mostly reporting that M850i's (and the 8 series in general) are sitting in lots very difficult to sell. Hence the amount of depreciation.

Like I've stated before, my car has depreciated so much I've essentially said "screw it", I'm just going to mod this thing.
Maybe if BMW had kept the design of the production 75 - 80% close to the prototype style, the second generation 8 series would sell a lot more and don't depreciate as much for sitting at the dealership lots for so long.

Although I don't own the second generation 8, I have a 1991 850i and was looking forward to the second gen to come out. All the of the marketing and pre-launch pictures of the sec gen 8 looked so awesome. I was really excited until... I'm not bashing on the second gen 8, still love it but it would have been a different story if otherwise.

Perhaps one day, I will be able to add the second gen 8 to my garage, parked next to the first gen 8.

Cheers.
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Nope. Not good enough🤣

Three days old.......
Not leaving the garage until snow is gone, roads completely dry and clear and temperatures above 40. The car has a brand new set of Pirelli
P-Zero Corsa's on it. They are not rated for safe use under 40 degrees. Much less in snow. I will have to address that next fall with another set of tires to be purchased.
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Maybe if BMW had kept the design of the production 75 - 80% close to the prototype style, the second generation 8 series would sell a lot more and don't depreciate as much for sitting at the dealership lots for so long.
Agreed on this as the prototype was significantly more sexy but guessing manufacturing realities (including COGS to produce) ended up where the 8-series stands today.

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Although I don't own the second generation 8, I have a 1991 850i and was looking forward to the second gen to come out. All the of the marketing and pre-launch pictures of the sec gen 8 looked so awesome. I was really excited until... I'm not bashing on the second gen 8, still love it but it would have been a different story if otherwise.
Same here as watched that prototype video often after my CA told me the new 8 was on the horizon. Still live the new 8 though from an overall looks plus driving experience.

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Perhaps one day, I will be able to add the second gen 8 to my garage, parked next to the first gen 8.
Kudos to you on the 1st gen 8 ownership. How has the 850i M70 V12 held up for you from maintenance, etc.? Sounds like from what I've read the M73 and S70 have had a fair share of issues.

The N63T3 and S63T4 in the current 8-series have been rock solid. Wish I could say the same for the B58 with the new 48 volt mild hybrid on it and the S68 with the same. Don't want to jinx it as my wife's 40i LCI so far has no issues but others have been bricked by the 48 volt mild hybrid (mostly 50e's but has hit M60i's and 40is). Which shows up as the kiss of death, i.e., Drive Train malfunction on the iD8 console.
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Kudos to you on the 1st gen 8 ownership. How has the 850i M70 V12 held up for you from maintenance, etc.? Sounds like from what I've read the M73 and S70 have had a fair share of issues.
Well, the first generation e31 has all sorts of issues. It's definitely an enthusiast's type of car because without a proper support online forum and some adequate DIY ability, it'll be very expensive to own.

On the other BMW online forum, collectively, I believe it has the best group of e31 owners/enthusiasts around. A lot of folks on that forum are extremely knowledgeable and mechanically savvy. I owe all of my knowledge of the e31 platform to the folks on that forum.

I envy and admire all of the current 8 series owners, and most certainly wish you all a very satisfiable ownership journey. My hats off to you all.

Cheers,
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