05-12-2017, 09:45 AM | #89 |
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Well.. one thing that's for sure, it ain't gonna be a sports car... so at that price range unless you are going after luxury, a Porsche or maybe even McLaren 570S would be a wiser choice.
I love BMW, but they just haven't got a pure sports car to compete... maybe they are just not into that market |
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05-12-2017, 12:21 PM | #91 |
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05-12-2017, 02:17 PM | #93 |
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The 6GC is going away in favor of a 6GT later this year and, reportedly but not confirmed yet, an 8GC at some point.
I suspect that the new 8 Series models won't cost quite as much more than their 6 Series counterparts as one might think. The 6 Series is already hovering near 7 Series pricing for an equivalently powered model. My point here is that if you can afford a 6 Series today, you will likely not be priced out of the upcoming 8 Series replacement just because it gains +2 in its name. |
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05-12-2017, 02:36 PM | #95 |
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Someone should compare the c63s coupe to the f13 m6 I think. Both twin turbo v8s and within 50kg of each other. The m4 is so much lighter that it will always be completely different to the other two.
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05-13-2017, 01:35 PM | #98 |
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No, I mean the Q8
http://www.audi.com/en/innovation/de...8_concept.html It's going in production later this year or Q1 2018 Audi has confirmed. It's basically a "coupe" Q7, has nothing to do with the GLS from Merc. |
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Instead, perhaps we could see a "60e" iPerformance designation which combines a V8 and electric motor to serve as the flagship. In the 8 Series case, this may depend on how they feel this model would coexist along side the M8 without too much potential for robbing one another of sales. This of course would likely come after the introduction of a "50e" designation for I6-powered eDrive models. No word yet on when we might see that. Quote:
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05-13-2017, 10:29 PM | #100 |
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I assume an 8-series would be Maybach grade? An 8-series has to be bigger than the 7-series.
The 7-series is truly big. I'm not sure how much bigger but the '13 7-series is so big it takes up nearly the entire parking space. If you do not turn in correctly you will be on the line or over it. There isn't much room to spare. With the 5-series you have room to spare. I use the top-down camera to perfect the "line". I don't have the L but when there is that square thing turned 90 degrees like a diamond that some parking lots have and I'm just on the curb to not hit it the back end takes up the whole space to the end of the line and more maybe. Sometimes I feel it's not much different than the 5-series we had but when comparing the feel of size to SUVs and other cars it feels as if it's an SUV that has been scrunched vertically. xDrive is truly amazing as acceleration feels like it's not even raining. Using LC with Sport+ or TC doesn't make it launch smooth. It's like the axles or something is grinding during the stop and go of the stability system. DSC OFF is totally the way to take off in the wet but in the dry I assume LC is better on the components. Filming from the outside it seems DSC OFF looks faster because the visual get away look seems to be better and it isn't a placebo. |
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05-14-2017, 07:27 AM | #101 |
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That would be a real shame given the history of the 8 Series, the rivals BMW is aiming to compete against (S Class Coupé), and furthermore BMW's ambition to gain credibility and garner profit in the luxury segments. It would only seem coherent to maximize the V12 engine across the whole higher BMW range and not the 7 (and potentially 9) Series sedans only, at a time when the luxury market is becoming less about sedans and more about SUVs. There is still enough room left to set the Rolls-Royce Wraith apart from a V12 8 Series and the Rolls-Royce Cullinan apart from a V12 X7 (which Scott had mentioned).
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05-14-2017, 10:42 AM | #102 |
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Not necessarily. The 6 Series coupe and convertible are smaller (shorter, shorter wheelbase) than the 5 Series sedan. The 6 Gran Coupe is naturally larger than the two-door models, but not larger than the sedan. Expect a similar relationship between the 7 Series and 8 Series.
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The 6 Gran Coupé (5.01m) was indeed longer than the 6 Coupé (4.89m) but it was actually also longer than the 5 Sedan (4.91m), due to its massive overhangs as the wheelbase was the same. We can expect the 8 Coupé to grow and reach the 5m of the S Class Coupé, and the 8 Gran Coupé to match the 7 Sedan length.
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BMW does GC's right. The 6GC and the 4 GC are both great looking vehicles.
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Agreed - actually surprised we didn't see an M4 GC for the F82 generation - I think a lot of people would have liked how that car would have turned out. Just a slightly shrunken version of the 6.
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The Apples to Apples comparison of Nurburgring lap times is the Sport Auto Supertests. Unlike factory set lap times with undisclosed preparations done to the cars, Sport Auto test a standard production car on std tires and std suspension settings. The AMG GT R set a faster lap time than the 918 Spyder when tested by a independent driver. http://www.auto-motor-und-sport.de/e...-11630808.html |
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