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Now that you point out the facts about Z-whaever, it makes sense. It's just that they have a foggy logic for the GT name. Even the logic behind calling a wagon-hatch back a GT is flawed. GT is short for Gran Turismo, which is like the 6 series/M6, CL/S Class Coupe, E Class Coupe, Maserati Gran Turismo (it has it in its name), Bentley Continental GT, Aston Martin DB9/DB11, and the more sporty supercar range of the Ferrari 550/575, 599, F12/812. Thanks for making my head hurt now. But I will say this, the M8 seems to be shaping up to be a beast! |
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Maybe it's the wierd m-xdrive lol
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911 fighter would have to be built by the ground up by M, just like the AMG GT is from AMG. After the E31 came the Z8..So now that we are getting the 8er again I have hope for a successor for that model to come in later..like the 507, it looks stunning until now. And it actually could be even a 911 fighter if it carries a carbon tube. Scott also mentioned that the 6er will be repositioned as it is leaving a gap in the line up, so we shall see if it's true and how it plays out. Although the 8er didn't turn out as exotic as the concept, as it should've, if they are aiming at that price point, I still bet the M8 will be sick. At least we can hope for some cool stuff out of BMW, which is focusing on heavy and luxury models lately. |
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Mmmm nope. Still not feelin it, but I wasn't a 6 buyer either. |
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If its anything less than a V12 twin turbo to compete with Bentley or Merc...not interesting
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Good thought. By releasing M-series models first the standard vehicles would be seen to contain DNA from the M-cars rather than the perception of what's happening now - the M-cars are basically modified standard cars.
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The reason why production is so far along on the M8 is because this is really a 6er. All they're doing is calling it an 8er so they can charge you more. It's too bad they're going to kill the 6 series name by using it on the ugly 5GT. The 6 series has been BMWs only good looking model. It's the only one that has/had a unique look to all the other boring/bland in their lineup besides the i cars. BMW needs help, really bad.
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05-28-2017, 05:23 AM | #97 |
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So we shall expect the new M8 being lighter and more performance oriented than the actual M6?
The point of a 6 GT and an X6 can't be easy understood. 😯 |
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05-28-2017, 10:22 AM | #99 |
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Thanks for the pics!
It seems that the grilles will be done right! Not the awful upside down ones of the 8 Series Concept and the X2!! It's going to be gorgeous !! |
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Seems so similar to 6. I hope with 8 I can put two adults in the back comfortably like s coupe. |
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A lot of Hype on this car, i just don't see it..............
BMW cancels the 6 series and rolls this 8 series out.
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Someone correct me if I'm wrong, but has BMW ever done an official unveiling of a test mule with the model designation plastered on the front of the car? I felt like all the test mules up until this point have been secretive and behind the scenes, with the images being at the ring or someone catching one in passing... so why the change?
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I'm having the same reservations as many here. Initially, I thought the 8er was going to be a true competitor to the S-Class Coupe - a BMW that will take what the 7er provided and add on top of it but the more I read, it seems like it's just the successor to the F12/F13 but with a new name plate. I think the current 6er is by far the best looking BMW on the market today but I was really excited to see if BMW would truly compete in the big luxury coupe space because it seems like Mercedes is just taking the segment even if they only sell a couple of thousand.
It's a shame because I feel like BMW wasted so much time/opportunity in coming out with a GL/GLS competitor and this feels like the same situation. I get that BMW has the Rolls Royce Wraith/Dawn but that's still significantly more expensive than the S-Class Coupe, surely BMW could come with something that undercuts the Wraith/Dawn in price without wandering into Rolls Royce territory. |
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Now the 5cm that the 8 lost in length compared to the 6 does not mean the 8 will have less rear leg room than the 6, as there might very likely have been work done about the packaging (slimmer front seats, shorter overhangs...). But let's see how the lower roof (vs current 6), the straight roofline slope (vs rounded on the S Coupé) and the strong tapering of the passenger compartment towards the rear of the vehicle, which allow for this striking fastback profile and these sexy Aston Martin haunches, will affect rear head room and shoulder room. Anyway it is pretty evident that BMW did not choose to compete against the S Coupé directly, but with a polarized double offer of either a sporty 2 door Coupé or a roomier 4 door Gran Coupé. However there is still a potential issue with this upmarket move of the 8 vs the outgoing 6 while still technically being a 6: while the 2 door 8 Coupé might justify the price bump over the current 6 with its more sporty and exclusive nature, the 4 door 8 GC in all likelihood will be priced as high as the AMG GT4, Panamera, potentially A9 SB, yet will likely offer as 'little' interior room as the cheaper CLS or A7 SB (the current 6 GC already is significantly more expensive than the CLS and A7 SB). In other words, the 8 GC will probably be marketed as an uber 7 Series and be priced like the large Panamera and GT4, yet will offer a smaller interior space similar to the cheaper CLS and A7 SB, since the 2 door 8 Series, being based on the 5 rather than the 7, is already pretty short to begin with. I'm not sure that BMW has what it takes to justify this price/room ratio gap compared to Merc, Audi, Porsche... Last edited by advantage20; 05-28-2017 at 01:02 PM.. |
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